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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD 12 APRIL 2018 VOL 44 NO 54

PARLIAMENT OF ZIMBABWE

Thursday, 12th April, 2018

The National Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two o’clock p.m.

PRAYERS

(THE ACTING SPEAKER in the Chair)

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING SPEAKER

VACANCY IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY

          THE ACTING SPEAKER (HON. MARUMAHOKO): I would like to notify this House that on the 10th of April, 2018, Parliament was notified by the Movement for Democratic Change MDC-T that Honourable Doctor Thokozani Khupe, Proportional Representation Member of Parliament, had ceased to be a member of the Movement for Democratic Change, MDC-T party and therefore, no longer represents the interests of the party in Parliament.

          Section 129 (1) (k) of the Constitution of Zimbabwe provides that:

          “A seat of a Member of Parliament becomes vacant if the Member has ceased to belong to the political party of which he or she was a Member when elected to Parliament and the political party concerned, by written notice to the Speaker or the President of the Senate, as the case may be, has declared that the Member has ceased to belong to it”

          Pursuant to the above, I do hereby inform this House that a Proportional Representation vacancy has arisen in Bulawayo Metropolitan Province by operation of this law. 

The necessary administrative measures will be taken to inform His Excellency, the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe and the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (ZEC) of the existence of the vacancy in line with Section 39 (1) of the Electoral Act, [Chapter 2:13] as amended. 

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

THE HON. MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT (HON. DR. GUMBO):  I move that Orders of the Day, Numbers 1 to 4 be stood over until Order of the Day, Number 5 has been disposed of.

Motion put and agreed to.

SECOND READING

CIVIL AVIATION AMENDMENT BILL [H. B. 4, 2017]

          Fifth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the Second Reading of the Civil Aviation Amendment Bill [H. B. 4, 2017]

          HON. MARIDADI:  I rise on a point of order Mr. Speaker.  Seeing that the Minister of Transport and Infrastructural Development is in the House this afternoon and seeing that there is a lot of talk about Zimbabwe Airways and the dualisation of the Harare-Beitbridge road and there are a lot of things that have been said pertaining to that road, cancellation of tenders and tenders being awarded to people that have not submitted bids in the first place;  I thought I would want him to favour this House with a Ministerial Statement on basically those two issues.   On Zimbabwe Airways, he should tell the nation issues like who owns it, how were the aeroplanes bought and the shareholding of that company.  So, Mr. Speaker I so submit and hope the Minister will favour us with that Ministerial Statement. 

          THE ACTING SPEAKER:  Hon. Maridadi, the issue of the Harare-Beitbridge Road was discussed yesterday and I am sure the Minister was informed or will be informed about it.  However, let me find out from the Hon. Minister if he wants to commit himself.

          THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT (HON. DR. GUMBO): Mr. Speaker Sir, I do not know whether I can respond to what the Hon. Member is asking now or should I bring a prepared statement.  I have no problem in responding to that now, with your permission.

          THE ACTING SPEAKER:  I think it will be better if you come up with a prepared statement.

          HON. MLISWA: On a point of order, Hon. Speaker, I just want to add something to that statement, there must be the shareholding structure because I am told that the statement made by Hon. Chinamasa is not true that there is a company.  We want also the name of the Singaporean company, we want to know who owns it because what I have been told and what is there is that ….

          THE ACTING SPEAKER:  Order Hon. Member, Hon. Maridadi had already asked the Minister to make a statement.

          HON. MLISWA: What I am trying to say Mr. Speaker Sir is that Zimbabwe Airways is a company that is going to lease from another company. That company is registered in Singapore and the Zimbabwean Government owns the planes. Hence we need to know who that company is because it is appears to be a very sophisticated structure. That is why I am spending time saying Zimbabwe Airways shareholders as well as shareholders of the company that leases from the Government must also be known. Therefore your statement must be clear so that there will be no more grey areas in that regard. Thank you.

          THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND INFASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT (HON. DR. GUMBO): Mr. Speaker Sir I have already admitted that I am ready to give a Ministerial Statement containing all details, including commas and full-stops thereof.  I have no problem my brother and I will give you everything. Do not worry.  However, let me just preliminarily explain for the sake of the media. The company he is referring to, for your information, is not registered in Singapore.  It is registered in Zimbabwe. Wait for issuance of the statement and then ask your questions. I assure you that you will be very happy, at the end of the day.

          THE ACTING SPEAKER:  Order, order, there is no debate over this issue please.

          Question again proposed.

HON. NDUNA: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker with your indulgence, this Bill is of a technical nature and I will refer to my notes so that I do not get it wrong. Mr. Speaker the Bill before us seeks to unbundle the Civil Aviation Authority of Zimbabwe (CAAZ) in sync with the global best practices. Mr. Speaker Sir it is prudent to note that the countries that have gone that route have not done it in error, but cognisant of their various stages of development.

THE ACTING SPEAKER: Hon. Members let us lower our voices. I can hardly follow the Hon. Member’s debate. 

HON. NDUNA: It should be noted that CAAZ is unbundling, yet previously it was the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) that unbundled to form what is now CAAZ. Mr. Speaker Sir, just yesterday we received a delivery of the first Boeing 777 as a country. That is a very big aircraft. As we further receive our aircrafts and other foreign ones into our country, it should be noted that we are mandated to make sure that those aircrafts take off and land effectively, efficiently and safely.

Today as we stand as a nation Mr. Speaker Sir, it was said before that we currently have a dilapidated aviation infrastructure in terms of runways. On that point accolades need to be given to the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructural Development for rehabilitating some of our runways and other related airport infrastructure. Relatively - of immediate note are the Victoria Falls Airport, Joshua Mqabuko Nkomo Airport, Buffalo Range Airport and other few airports that were improved. Yet as it may be, we are still far behind in terms of catching up with other regional and global players.

Chief among issues I am talking about is the need to improve air navigation systems that naturally resides within CAAZ. I dwell on this issue mainly because it is my view and the people who participated in our public hearings’ view, and in particular the technocrats who presented their evidence, noted that there is much to be done in terms of surveillance in this country, before we can even think of unbundling CAAZ. It is also a fervent view I share with the technocrats that when CAAZ was still DCA, it used to be more efficient than what it is as we speak Mr. Speaker Sir.

This Bill should hold horses and we should advance resources that are being utilised in the unbundling processes towards augmenting resources for surveillances, for air traffic controllers and air navigation systems. That is because when an aircraft comes down, pregnant with three hundred or more people in a manner that is not procedural, it may not go up again as it is likely to get into a major disaster. We need to owe it to our pilots, air traffic controllers as well as all those in the aviation system. They have kept the safety record of Zimbabwe under check and we need to be in sync with other global players in terms of being modern and upgrading our air navigation and surveillance systems.

This will help us to avoid and make sure that there is no opportunity for any major air transport disaster in Zimbabwe. We owe our safety record to our pilots, air traffic controllers and other players in the aviation industry who may not necessarily be in the government circles. We need to complement that and avoid the occurrence of any disaster in the future by equipping our air navigation systems both for surveillance and other navigation communication systems Mr. Speaker Sir.

Mr. Speaker Sir, according to the International Civil Aviation Organisation (AICAO), the experience acquired worldwide shows that when airports are operated by autonomous entities like what is being sought by this Bill, their overall financial position and management effectiveness generally improved. The AICAO further points out that almost all such entities have been created by governments, even though operations of many airports considered have since been transferred wholly or in part, for ownership by the private sector. Mr. Speaker Sir this Bill seeks to unbundle a government or quasi-government entity and therefore it would be prudent in the long run when eventually this Bill passes through this House which I doubt it is going to pass through now. It will be prudent to make sure that, that entity resides with an effective and efficient private sector that is going to enhance effectiveness in terms of the operation or the modus operandi in the aviation section, in particular in the air navigation systems.

          Mr. Speaker Sir, Government is planning to unbundle Civil Aviation Authority into two entities. One entity will be responsible for the regulatory issues whilst the other one will be in charge of the commercial operations. As Government seeks to improve efficiency in the running of airports and regulations of the air industry, it is undisputed, but we need to first and foremost have introspection before we deal with that avenue. Unbundling will just get us some scorn from ICAO. It is not going to get us banished from the aviation industry.

          So, it is certainly not a major disaster and it is not a train space. We need to major on majors. We do not need to major on minors but we need to deal with issues not tissues. Evidence from other countries which have gone through the unbundling process indicates that excess capacity stimulated and necessitated the regulatory reform. The strong growth of the air traffic makes it necessary to optimise the use of the air space by establishing adequate air traffic control capacity capabilities but also by ensuring an efficient organisation of air space and airports.

          Admittedly Mr. Speaker Sir, given the considerable possibilities of improving the productivity of the enterprises active in the air transport sector; airlines, airports, ground handling services, providers and others, further reform might lead to some job losses in the short term. In the long term, the development of activities due to the greater competitiveness of these enterprises in relationship to foreign competitiveness, combined with expansion anticipated in this sector should make it possible to offset these losses.

          First and foremost, we need to enhance the effectiveness of the air navigation systems that can mean a lot of revenue generation, spiking revenue generation and also it can curtail the losses that are gotten because there are some aircraft that are doing over flights which we cannot dictate, where we are expected to depend on the benevolence of the captains or the pilots of those aircraft. If they do not tell us that they have had over flights and if ICAO or these other organisations or iata chooses to restrict the information given to Zimbabwe, it means we will not be able to get revenue from over flights.

          Currently, as a nation in the global sector we are like a black hole. When aviation players come into Zimbabwe, they know that it is a different ball game altogether. There are some things that cannot be conducted by our air traffic controllers because we currently do not have an effective and efficient radar system. It is my clarion call and fervent view that we should first and foremost apply our money towards the capitalisation and effective management of our navigation systems.

          The world has certainly gone to modern trends, but Air Zimbabwe used to be the envy of the region and the global aviation systems. We have gone from being that to being the lowest that any country can envy because we do not have an effective aviation detection system, and we do not have an air traffic controlling system that is second to none in the global world. So, it is my view that if we first put our money where our mouth is, before we try and wax lyrical and unbundle an ineffective and not efficient and inefficient sector Mr. Speaker Sir, we need not put square plugs in round holes. We need to have round holes for round plugs.

          I believe in all honesty, we need to first and foremost capacitate our current dilapidated, deplorable air traffic systems. Your Committee that I chaired then, brought to this House a deplorable state of radio navigation systems including headphones for the air traffic controllers and lights for the runways. It also includes a short tower at J. M. Nkomo Airport, which could result in a mid-air disaster because there is no air traffic controller and captain or aircraft interface. So, these need to be capacitated and need to be put into the rightful place. We need to give them the right headphones, headsets, buy radar systems, second to none so that we can be in tandem with the global community before we can bring in a Bill that seeks to unbundle an inefficient sector.

I want to say with those few words, there is going to see reason to first hold back on the unbundling and first put our money where our mouth is, capacitate the very crucial and critical element of navigation which is the air traffic control systems, and this regulatory entity should first and foremost become effective in its current form before we multiply the inefficiencies of this ineffective system which we call CAAZ. Thank you Mr. Speaker for giving me this opportunity to debate.

          HON. MUDEREDZWA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir for giving me the opportunity to make a contribution to this debate. First and foremost, I would like to thank the Hon. Minister for bringing this Bill before Parliament for consideration. My argument seems to go along with the argument of Hon. Nduna. The world over, this is a technical Bill but I would like to argue it from a management point of view. The world over, organisations are moving towards mergers. They are not moving towards disintegration for the common reason that if you merge, you have got a common vision. You streamline the management structure and as a result of that or the chain of command, you are in a position to cut costs.  We have not been informed about the perceived benefits that can be derived from separating or unbundling the Civil Aviation Authority of Zimbabwe (CAAZ).  Why should we be moving in the opposite direction at a time when people are moving in the direction of mergers?  Mr. Speaker Sir, streamlining has got benefits that I have highlighted and I would like to argue that what is important at the present moment to CAAZ is to specialise in areas where they can perform better.  If they are bundled together and they are not specialising, that is where the problem could be but if they then departmentalise to an extent that they have got a department that looks towards the crucial area that we are talking about, then it will make a lot of sense.

          We have got an example of ZESA; look at the journey that ZESA has taken.  Right now ZESA is in pieces.  Had it been that ZESA is centralised, we were not going to have a lot of managers or people to report to.  What we have to do is to make sure we streamline; we continue in the same direction we have taken but specialise so that we are able to cut costs.  The issue basically that we need to guard against in our public utilities is cutting costs.  I seem to agree with Hon. Nduna that at the present moment what we are considering to be a topical issue should not obtain. 

What should happen at the present moment is to make sure that we can even bring in an organisational change agent so that we look into CAAZ and see where the problems are; where the areas of duplication are; which are the areas where we are not good at and it is in those respective areas where we can get a specialist to attend to issues that we would like to address through unbundling.  So Mr. Speaker Sir, measures are better than unbundling at the present moment, taking into consideration the aspect that Zimbabwe as a country, we will be competing with other airways and as a result of that competition, it is either we are going to benefit or we are going to suffer.

I would like to look at this issue from this perspective and try to persuade the Hon. Minister that maybe we are jumping the gun at the present moment.  This Bill should not be allowed to go through by this Hon. House.  We should be moving towards cutting costs and as a result of that, we want to sort of maybe monitor developments in CAAZ and see how they are going to improve their performance, taking into consideration the fact that we are about to receive a new fleet of planes that are going to make us competitive relative to the region.  With those few remarks Mr. Speaker Sir, I would like to argue in that direction and say this Bill is being brought before this Parliament prematurely.  I thank you.

HON. CHIMANIKIRE: Thank you Mr. Speaker.  Mr. Speaker, the history of ZANU PF Government in the last 10 to 15 years has been littered with ideas of unbundling.  They unbundled Post and Telecommunications Corporation (PTC) into NetOne, POSB, TelOne and Zimpost; the end result is a total disaster where our post offices have been closing down throughout the whole country. The system is collapsing and what we are doing now is to look for so-called partners to partner them and it has taken them over 15 years not to find any partner for Telone or NetOne.  It is littered with inefficiencies.

What we do when we fail to operate efficiently, we think that the solution is to unbundle.  If we look at Air Zimbabwe at the moment, our problem is management; failure to manage, inefficiency and failure to fulfill the obligation of a national airline.  Less than two weeks ago, Air Zimbabwe travelers were stranded at various airports in South Africa and here in Zimbabwe, simply because the President of the country had taken Air Zimbabwe’s only operating aircraft on an adventure to the Soviet Union and then to China. 

Mr. Speaker, the unbundling history in various in various ministries has not been a success. We are yet to hear where Government has succeeded on an unbundling hoping to inject efficiency.  Actually what we have is a cancer of inefficiency in the various ventures that happen.  So, Mr. Speaker, I stand up to support those who are speaking against the passing of this Bill in this House.  I believe we have to look elsewhere; we have to look for partners for Air Zimbabwe, management. If you look at the number of General Managers that have been appointed and disappointed from Air Zimbabwe in the last five years, the story is quite clear Mr. Speaker that the issue is about proper management.

Less than two years ago, we absorbed a debt that had been incurred by Air Zimbabwe in order to improve its efficiency in operation but it did not work.  General Manager after General Manager; members of the board are replaced almost annually with new members of the board but the rot continues.  So, Mr. Speaker, the national airline does not need unbundling.  If anything, it does need consolidation, proper management and looking for proper partnership that will ensure that there is injection of capital and therefore that will lead to better services being rendered to Zimbabweans in as far as the area of tourism is concerned.  Our tourism is being supported by South African airline, it is being supported by other airlines and yet as Air Zimbabwe we leave a lot still to be desired.

I think we should be concentrating on injecting more efficiency into Air Zimbabwe rather than looking at the administrative part of it and think that is the problem.  We need professionals, even if it means that we need experts to come in and run our airline efficiently.  I reinforce the call by those who have spoken before me that the Bill should never see the light of day in this Parliament.  I thank you Mr. Speaker.

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING SPEAKER

NON-ADVERSE REPORT RECEIVED FROM THE PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL COMMITTEE

THE ACTING SPEAKER: I wish to inform the House that I have received a Non-Adverse Reports from the Parliamentary Legal Committee on the following:  The Zimbabwe Iron and Steel Company (Debt Resumption) Bill, [H. B. 2, 2018] and all Statutory Instruments gazetted during the month of March 2018, SI 25 to 46 of 2018 and three General Notices, 144 to 177 of 2018.

 

THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT (HON. DR. GUMBO):  Thank you Mr. Speaker.  First of all, I want to thank the Committee on Transport and Infrastructural Development for the report that they presented to the House, the recommendations that they made and the comments that were made by Hon. Members on the day when the debate resumed on this Bill.  I would also want to thank colleagues that have made their remarks.  I want to point out that what we are doing now to unbundle the Civil Aviation Authority of Zimbabwe is to follow the best practice worldwide.  It is not that we are inventing the wheel but this is the way other authorities are regulated in order to have that distinction between the regulatory section and the management section. 

Colleagues and Members will remember that at one time at Air Zimbabwe or at the Harare International Airport, there was an incident when one of our planes hit some animals and it was an issue.  When we come to such a situation Mr. Speaker Sir, you can see the need why internationally it has been recommended that there must be separation of powers because the CAAZ would then investigate itself, you can imagine what that means.  If there is a regulatory side and there is a management side, the issues can be separated.  This is the reason why we are following the world trend of separating the management side of airport issues and the regulatory section of issues at our airport.  We are just trying to move with what the world is also doing.

I want to thank Hon. Nduna for the comments he has just made.  I know he is an engineer and is the former Chairperson of the Committee.  His comments are well received, I have no objection in accepting what he is talking about.  I just want to respond to say that I am happy to say that our recent visit to China ended up with the signing of the loan that we require to rehabilitate Harare International Airport.   This also brings an answer to some of the concerns being raised by Hon. Nduna.  Regarding the air navigation area, there are negotiations at the moment with a company that was awarded a tender to install the navigation system that my colleague Hon. Nduna is concerned about.  I take his comments, they are very genuine but it is something that we are working on at the moment and that should not stop us from unbundling CAAZ for the reasons I have just mentioned.

Regarding Hon. Muderedzwa, I might have missed some of his concerns, but regarding what I have presented as a Bill and what he is talking about, one would say that the concerns are taken up but they appeared like at times he was mixing issues of a JV and unbundling and so forth and so on.  There are advantages Hon. Muderedzwa about the unbundling and I have mentioned one of them that there is separation of powers.  Putting everything in one basket causes a lot of conflict when situations of management and situations of regulation are at play.  This is why we are unbundling.  I think knowing the history of Hon. Muderedzwa, he would be very much aware that neighbouring countries like South Africa are doing what we are recommending at the moment.  There is no separation of those services or responsibilities that we are doing right now.  Many other countries are doing what we are proposing to do for now. 

Hon. Chimanikire, thank you very much for mentioning that maybe it was a holiday to go to China but it was a very fruitful holiday to China.  We came up with many successes on that journey.  One of them regarding my Bill is that we ended up with the signing of $153 million for the rehabilitation of the Harare International Airport.  Generally, the comments that have been made today, I take and accept them.  In order to support our tourism, let us improve our airports but to improve our airports means a lot of good management.  That good management also refers to the unbundling of the CAAZ.  I agree and I am on record stating that I am not happy with the management of Air Zimbabwe and so forth but today, that is not the issue that I have brought.  I will deal with it the way I am dealing with it from the Ministry’s position.  We are working on it, we are restructuring Air Zimbabwe and we want to see that it is efficiently run.  It is also the same reason why we want to make sure that we unbundle CAAZ so that we can see it is efficiently run.  This is the reason why I am bringing this Bill to the House. 

There were comments that were made by the Committee and I am happy that the Committee Chairperson is here and also the former Committee Chairperson is around.  Some of the comments that the Committee made were as follows:  they were concerned and recommended the unbundling of CAAZ into two entities should go ahead in order to comply with international standards but the issue of surveillance system should be addressed as a matter of urgency.  We totally agree with that observation by the Committee.  My response Mr. Speaker Sir is that, CAAZ is in agreement with the unbundling of CAAZ into two entities.  Tender for the supply of financing of air space surveillance systems was awarded to Indra of Spain and a contract was signed on the 20th December 2017 with Indra, funding mobilisation is in progress.  That is the way I can respond to that concern by the Committee.

The second concern by the Committee was that a lawyer must be employed because it is important that in the board, there should be a lawyer.  Section 10 (3) of the Civil Aviation Act, requires that at least one member of the board be appointed for his/her knowledge of law in particular, the law relating to aviation.  The legal person on the board has knowledge on the aviation law as is required by the Act.  We have already complied with that Mr. Speaker Sir.  The requirement for a lawyer who is knowledgeable in the aviation industry is not a requirement for appointment as is specified in the Act. 

The concern about the gender composition of the board has since been addressed.  The present board consists of four female members and three male members.  Clearly, that one we have complied with Mr. Chairman.  The other issue that the Committee is concerned about is the need for policy reforms to ensure that regulations and regulatory processes are transparent.  Non-discriminatory rules are efficiently applied.  The recommendation is noted and I agree with it.  The other concern Mr. Speaker Sir was that there was need for the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructural Development to come up with a database of qualified personnel in the aviation industry.  A database for all licenced and certified personnel who are currently serving in the aviation industry is available at the Civil Aviation Authority of Zimbabwe (CAAZ).  So, we are complying with that requirement Hon. Chairman.  CAAZ should be responsible for the issuance of airline routes in consultation with the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructural Development, that is one recommendation that the Committee made.

          The practice differs from one jurisdiction to another and there is no standard practice regarding the issuance of airline routes.  Currently, the Ministry is responsible for the issuance of the air services permit, which specifies route rights in accordance with the Air Services Act (Chapter 13.01) whilst the CAAZ is responsible for the technical licencing.  That is exactly what the situation is like at this particular time.

          Regarding another concern or recommendation by the Committee, Mr. Speaker Sir, which I would want to respond to, training and air space service permit fees should be competitive to the region.  The recommendation is noted Mr. Speaker Sir.  More research analysis is required in order to determine the factors behind the differences in our fees, but we note that concern with respect. 

          Hon. Maondera made comments which he wanted me to respond to.  He wanted to thank you Mr. Speaker, but he did not oppose the passing of the Bill and I want to thank him for that.  However, the concerns on infrastructure which he made are noted and Government is embarking on an extensive programme to address infrastructure concerns at the Robert Gabriel Mugabe International Airport, which will see the expansion of the Airport and refurbishment of the existing infrastructure.

US$153 million loan framework for the project was signed between the Government of China and that of Zimbabwe.  This is what I have already alluded to, that it is now a reality that the loan agreement has already been signed.  So, the concerns of Hon. Maondera are answered.

He also wanted to know about the problem of visitors because of the issue of landing fees.  I am glad to say to Hon. Maondera that, CAAZ will continue to assess landing fees for competitiveness.  However, it should be noted that contrary to the assertion that our landing fees are high, recent studies have actually shown that the fees charged are quite competitive in the region, but the point was raised and as a Ministry and as CAAZ, we will continue to look at the issues raised to make sure that the fees that we charge are competitive.  I am glad that, that is what Hon. Maondera was concerned about and those concerns have been answered.

He also wanted to know about the database on qualified experts in aviation, which I have already responded.  The database is available; we have got it at CAAZ and thank you very much for that observation.  He was also very much concerned about the retention of skilled personnel.  We have problems because of our current economic situation but all efforts are being made to make sure that we can retain the qualified staff by paying them competitive salaries.

There was also an issue which was raised on the training of pilots.  The training of pilots in Zimbabwe is currently being carried out by private players and their training fees are not subject to regulation by Government.  The main contributor to the high cost of training is the fuel price which is almost twice that which is being charged by other players in the region.  Whilst we agree with the concerns that have been raised, we become constrained by the fact that our role to bring down the fees is really not within our ambit because it is done by private players who will charge their own prices.  They tell us that they are doing so because the cost of fuel is very high. 

There is need also as pointed out by Hon. Maondera, to synchronise the training of pilots in Zimbabwe so that they are trained under one academy and the qualification is internationally recognised wherever they go.  I agree with that.  The new International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) standard which stipulates that the issuance of an aviation qualification is to be conducted in an approved training school, has been included in the new civil aviation regulations to be gazetted.  That way, standardisation is assured as all personnel will have to go through an inspected and approved school.  So, that is how I can respond Mr. Speaker Sir.

Hon. Sibanda raised quite a number of issues, some of them which really do not relate to the Bill that I presented.  However, I still have to respond to the Hon. Member’s questions. 

Hon. P. D. Sibanda having been going through his mobile phone.

Some of the questions I remember from Hon. Sibanda when he is through with his phone are that, he wanted me to talk about the problems that we face at Air  Zimbabwe and also to explain about what is going on at Zimbabwe Airways.  I am glad to say to Hon. Sibanda that a requesti has already been made by Hon. Maridadi, that I bring a Ministerial Statement to bring together all the issues pertaining to the position of Zimbabwe Airways, who it is, who the shareholders are, how are they operating, who are the board members and so on.  I am glad to bring all those things to the House.

The only issue that I can respond to for now, in your presence, in case maybe next time you might not be in the House in May, is that the issue about a house that is said to have been rented and is alleged to be my daughter’s house.  With all due respect, it is not my daughter.  All Gumbos, cannot be my children, but they can also be relatives to me and there is no problem about that.  After you mentioned about it, I investigated and only discovered that the house being rented by the Zimbabwe Airways was identified through an estate agent and it was not actually because there was a Mr. Gumbo as a Minister and a Gumbo’s house was being rented out, it was identified from an Estate Agent.  So, you can be assured that I had no role to play.  I am as white as snow, regarding issues like that. 

Some of the concerns raised by Hon. Sibanda, I agree with him.  There are issues of incompetence in most parastatals including the ones that I run.  Given the opportunity to correct them, that is exactly what I am doing.  I think we are all aware that I have not been there for a long time and I could not have worked miracles to have changed everything, but I am doing my best.  I am only glad to say that, what you are raising is the same as what we were raising together before I was appointed to a Ministerial post and we were together in the House.  I am happy to say, I am carrying out your concerns and I will make sure that we address those concerns of inefficiency and other ways of doing business which we think are not that helpful to the development of our country.

Having said that Mr. Speaker Sir, I just want to appeal to my colleagues and Hon. Members that it is very important that this Bill is passed, we are lagging behind in many developments when we relate ourselves to other countries and what is happening in the same industry.  So, it is important that we pass this Bill so that we can unbundle the Civil Aviation Authority and work as other authorities are doing whether it is America or Britain and so forth, they are actually doing the same thing.  It is not because I want it in order to employ more and more people but it is important that we can have separation of roles at the Civil Aviation Authority of Zimbabwe.  Thank you.

          Motion put and agreed to.

          Bill read a second time.

          Committee Stage: Tuesday, 8th May, 2018.

          On the motion of  HON. RUNGANI seconded by HON. PARADZA, the House adjourned at Sixteen Minutes past Three o’clock p.m. until Tuesday, 8 May, 2018.

 

 

 

 

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