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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD 08 MAY 2025 Vol. 51 No. 45

PARLIAMENT OF ZIMBABWE

Tuesday, 8th May, 2025

The National Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two o’clock p.m.

PRAYERS

(THE HON. SPEAKER in the Chair)

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE HON. SPEAKER

NON-ADVERSE REPORTS RECEIVED FROM THE PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL COMMITTEE

         THE HON. SPEAKER: I have to inform the House that I have received Non Adverse Reports from the Parliamentary Legal Committee on the following:

  • Statutory Instrument 7/2025 gazetted during the month of January 2025.
  • Medical Service Amendment Bill [H. B. 6, 2024]

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

         HON. TOGAREPI: Mr. Speaker, I move that Order of the Day, Numbers 1 to 8 on today’s Order Paper be stood over until Order of the Day Number 9 has been disposed of.

         HON. NYANDORO: I second.

         Motion put and agreed to.

MOTION

REPORT OF THE PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE ON HIGHER AND TERTIARY EDUCATION, INNOVATION, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT ON THE ENQUIRY INTO THE PROJECTS BY VERIFY ENGINEERING AND NATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY AUTHORITY

HON. M. C. SIBANDA:  I move the motion standing in my name that this House considers and adopts the Report of the Portfolio Committee on Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development on the Enquiry into the projects being carried out by Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology Authority.

HON. MAKOPE: I second.

         HON. M. SIBANDA: 1.0          INTRODUCTION 

The Portfolio Committee on Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation Science and Technology Development conducted an inquiry into the operations of Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology Authority projects from 28th   of June to 4th of July 2024. Both Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology Authority being parastatals that fall within the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education Science and Technology Development play a pivotal role in achieving the vision of the Ministry of a heritage based higher Education, Science and Technology Development for a competitive industrialised and Modernised Zimbabwe by 2030. Therefore, the above-mentioned Committee as part of its oversight role resolved to do an inquiry of the above-mentioned entities in order to evaluate the various projects being carried out by both entities.

2.0 OBJECTIVES 

  1. To familiarise with the operations of Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology Authority;
  2. To propose measures to capacitate both Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology Authority so as to enhance their performance.

3.0 METHODOLOGY  

In conducting the inquiry, the Committee adopted established methodologies for investigations, ensuring the highest standards of transparency. This commitment to transparency not only bolstered the integrity of the process but also significantly enhanced the credibility and reliability of the Committee’s report.

3.1 ORAL EVIDENCE SESSIONS

         The Portfolio Committee initiated a series of oral evidence sessions with key stakeholders to gather insights essential for their investigation. The first session took place on February 13, 2024, when the Committee welcomed representatives from the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development (MHTESTD). During this session, the Permanent Secretary, shared valuable Permanent Secretary, shared valuable perspectives on the Ministry’s operations and the various entities under its jurisdiction. He highlighted several projects currently underway, including initiatives led by Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology Authority (NBA). Following this informative session, the Committee invited Verify Engineering (VE) on May 7, 2024. The CEO, presented the detailed briefing on company’s mandate and the projects it was undertaking, including significant developments in Mutare Feruka and Mkwasine in Chiredzi. The Committee further engaged with the National Biotechnology Authority on May 14, 2024, where Dr. Savadye provided an in-depth overview of the NBA’s role within the Ministry, outlining various initiatives being implemented throughout the country.

3.2 VERIFICATION VISITS

Building on the insights gained from the oral evidence sessions, the Portfolio Committee embarked on a series of verification visits to assess the projects and operations of both the National Biotechnology Authority and Verify Engineering. On June 29, 2024, the Committee visited the Verify Engineering projects in Mutare Feruka, followed by a trip to the National Biotechnology Authority’s Mapfuura project in Masvingo Rutenga on June 30, 2024. The Committee then explored the Mkwasine project, focusing on the innovative coal-to-liquid fertilizer initiative on July 1, 2024.The following day, the Committee assessed the National Biotechnology Regulatory offices at the Beitbridge Border Post and on July 3, 2024, the Committee visited the University of Zimbabwe Farms to examine various projects and initiatives led by the National Biotechnology Authority. Finally, on July 4, 2024 the Committee travelled to Muzarabani to inspect the Masawu projects, further solidifying their commitment to a comprehensive evaluation of the ongoing initiatives.

         4.0 FINDINGS

4.1   VERIFY ENGINEERING (VE)

         4.1.1 BACKGROUND AND THE UNPACKING OF THE PROJECTS.

During its visit to Verify Engineering’s Feruka projects in Mutare, the Portfolio Committee engaged with the senior management and board members revealing several key findings. The Committee noted that Verify Engineering, was established in 2005, and initially focused on researching alternative liquid fuel sources from local resources like coal and coal bed methane gas. A significant finding was that the company’s expanded mandate in 2019 to include “heritage-based research, innovation and development,” which aims for industrialization through heritage-based science and technology by 2030. The Committee recognised that Verify Engineering’s focus on innovation enhances its technological capabilities, aligning with national goals for economic growth and job creation.

Additionally, the findings highlighted opportunities for community engagement and local partnerships, indicating the company’s potential to promote sustainable practices and contribute to regional industrialisation. Overall, the Committee found out that Verify Engineering is well-positioned to drive energy solutions and broader socio-economic development, reinforcing its commitment to innovation and sustainability.

        4.1.2 OVERALL PROJECTS BEING CARRIED BY VERIFY ENGINEERING

         The presentation at Feruka highlighted key findings for the Committee regarding Verify Engineering (Pvt) Ltd and its strategic initiatives, which align with the objectives set by the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development (MHTESTD). The Committee found Verify Engineering has established a strong presence in the production and distribution of medical and industrial gases across Zimbabwe and the region, playing a vital role in meeting industrial needs and supporting national economic growth and job creation.

Additionally, the Committee noted that the company is actively engaged in advanced research and Development to drive industrialisation, with key focus areas including lithium battery development, waste management, hydrogen production and catalysis. These findings emphasize Verify Engineering’s commitment to leverage on emerging technologies and sustainable practices, balancing economic growth with environmental sustainability.

The Board Chair outlined Verify Engineering’s specialisation in the designing, construction, procurement and commissioning of manufacturing plants for chemical processing and food processing, as well as energy power plants. To enhance operational capacity, the company has established several Strategic Business Units (SBUs), including VE Gases for gas solutions, VE Energy for renewable projects and VE Technical Services for engineering and construction. Additionally, the VE Technology and Innovation Support Centre focuses on high-end research and development to promote industrialisation.

However, the board chair noted significant challenges, the substantial investment required for these initiatives and a lack of funding to bring them to bankable stage. This presents an opportunity for the Committee to advocate for funding solutions, such as joint ventures or public- private partnerships. Overall, these findings positions Verify Engineering as a pivotal player in advancing industrialisation and sustainable development in Zimbabwe, highlighting the importance of innovation and strategic partnerships in achieving national goals.

        4.1.3 PROJECTS REQUIRING TECHNICAL AND INVESTMENT (CTL, IRON & STEEL, CTF)

The Committee received on site presentations from Verify Engineering, which highlighted critical findings regarding the company’s ongoing and proposed projects, particularly significant funding challenges that impede their initiation. The Committee noted that several mineral-based projects, including the Coal-to-Liquid Fuels and Chemical (CTX) initiative (costing between USD 5 billion) and the Coal-to-Fertilizers and Chemical ( CTF) project ( estimated at USD51 million to USD 950 million), have remained unfunded for years. Other significant projects, such as the Iron and Steel Production Plant and a Coal Thermal Power Plant, require substantial investments, further underscoring the funding gap. The Committee recognised that this lack of funding is severely hindering progress and limiting potential economic benefits for Zimbabwe.

        Verify Engineering suggested that funding could come from various sources, including foreign direct investment, public- private partnership and joint ventures. The Committee acknowledged the importance of addressing the funding gap to support these initiatives, which could significantly contribute to the country’s economic growth and resource utilisation. Overall, these findings emphasise the urgent need for collaborative efforts to secure funding and realise these strategic projects, reinforcing the critical role of innovation and investment in Zimbabwe’s industrialisation agenda.   

4.1.4 VERIFY ENGINEERING MKWASINE

         During the Committee’s visit to Verify Engineering, at Mkwasine presentation on site outlined the company’s significant potential in fostering industrialisation through its innovative coal-to-liquid fertilizer project in Chiredzi. The Committee found out that this initiative emphasises beneficiation and effectively harness local resources. Key findings included a comprehensive feasibility study on coal gasification technology, essential for producing synthesis used in creating nitrogenous fertilisers via the Bosch-Haber Process. Verify Engineering’s expertise in infrastructure development ensures efficient operation and production targets for the plant.

The Committee also recognised the economic implications of local fertiliser production, which aims to reduce Zimbabwe’s reliance on imported fertilizers, currently at 90% of demand, promising substantial cost savings and enhancing local agriculture’s viability. Moreover, the project prioritizes environmental sustainability and benefits from collaboration with international partners like the Magco Consortium Group of Companies, which adds resources and expertise. Overall, the Committee concluded that Verify Engineering is laying the groundwork for economic growth and sustainability in the coal-to-liquid fertilizer sector, establishing a robust foundation for regional industrialisation.

4.2.1 NATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY AUTHORITY

        During its visit to the National Biotechnology Authority (NBA) projects in Rutenga, the Portfolio Committee met with the board and senior management, uncovering several key findings. The NBA, established under the National Biotechnology Authority of Zimbabwe Act of 2006, is an autonomous research and development institution aimed at transforming Zimbabwe from a raw material-based to a knowledge-based economy through the application of biotechnologies in agriculture, medicine, energy and environmental sectors.

Dr. Savadye outlined the NBA’s 19 primary roles, emphasising its key functions, which include regulating biotechnology goods and services, developing long term biotechnology policy, promoting research and innovation, leading genome analysis, reviewing biotechnology project proposals and ensuring national biosafety and biosecurity. These findings underscore the NBA’s critical role in advancing Zimbabwe’s economic transformation through biotechnology.

4.2.2 NATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY MAPFURA AND MASAU PLANTS

The Committee found out that the National Biotechnology Authority (NBA) is instrumental in promoting industrialisation through its flagship projects: the Mapfura processing plant in Mwenezi and Masau project in Muzarabani. Both projects aim to convert locally abundant fruits into value-added products, such as wine and jams, creating direct employment opportunities and fostering local entrepreneurship. The NBA highlighted that these initiatives significantly contribute to rural industrialisation and enhance economic benefits for local communities.

Furthermore, ongoing research and development efforts are focused on improving processing techniques and diversifying product offering for both local consumption and export. The Committee emphasised the importance of sustainability of these projects, noting their commitment to environmentally friendly practices and community engagement, which promote responsible resource management. Overall, the Committee noted that these initiatives exemplify how biotechnology can drive rural development and empower communities, showcasing their potential to improve local economies and support sustainable livelihoods.

        4.2.3 NATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY ACTIVITIES AT BEITBRIDGE BORDER POST

        The Committee noted that NBA plays a vital role at the Beitbridge Border Post, a key entry point for trade between Zimbabwe and South Africa. During the visits, the CEO emphasised on the NBA’s regulatory responsibilities, particularly in streaming import and export processes for agricultural products to ensure compliance with national compliance with national and international biotechnology standards. A key finding was the NBA’s implementation of biosecurity measures to protect local agriculture from pests and diseases associated with imported goods. The Committee also discovered that the NBA conducts thorough inspections of agricultural products and facilitates the safe movement of biotechnology derived goods. Additionally, regulations and adopting best practices for sustainability and productivity.

        The Committee recognised that the NBA actively promotes research and innovation in biotechnology at Beitbridge, collaborating with various stakeholders to develop solutions that enhance agricultural resilience and food security. These findings align with the Committee’s objectives during the familiarisation visits, highlighting the NBA’s capacity to facilitate industrialisation through beneficiation. Overall, the Committee found out that NBA’s focus on innovation and collaboration is essential for fostering a sustainable agricultural framework capable of meeting market demands while addressing environmental concerns, thereby enhancing the competitiveness of Zimbabwe’s agricultural sector in cross-border trade.

        4.2.4 NATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF ZIMBABWE BIOBANK AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN NBA AND UZ FARM

        The Committee findings reveal that the NBA plays a vital role in the UZ Biobank of the University of Zimbabwe, which collects and preserves biological samples for health and biotechnology research. NBA, emphasised that the biobank facilitates studies on genetic and environmental issues affecting Zimbabwe populations, with the NBA ensuring regulatory oversight for ethical and safety compliance, thereby enhancing research credibility. Additionally, the NBA’s support in securing funding is crucial for advancing impactful research, highlighting the importance its partnership with the University of Zimbabwe.

At the UZ farm, the Committee noted the collaboration to integrate biotechnology into agriculture, focusing on food security and productivity through joint research on crop improvement and pest resistance, alongside training programs for farmers and students. Furthermore, the Committee recognised a strategic partnership with Yunnan Industrial Hemp Co., Ltd. to cultivate medicinal cannabis which aims to leverage the global demand for cannabis-derived products. Overally the Committee concluded that these initiatives significantly enhance Zimbabwe’s agricultural capabilities and contribute to economic growth and sustainability.

        5.0 COMMITTEE OBSERVATION

5.1 The Committee acknowledged the critical roles of National Biotechnology Authority and Verify Engineering in supporting the parent Ministry’s Vision 2030, highlighting their importance in advancing the strategic objectives aimed at transforming Zimbabwe into a knowledge-based economy.

5.2 The projects undertaken by both Verify Engineering and NBA are innovation focused and research based and hence the need for Treasury support.

5.3 The Committee also noted that both the Mapfura and Masau projects aligned well with the devolution aspect as espoused by NDS 1 with the emphasis on the participation of the local people in the process. It was noted that the Masau and Mapfuura projects could be springboards for devolution allowing Muzarabani and Mwenezi communities to develop their own niche in the devolution discourse.

5.4 The Committee appreciated the relationship between the locals and NBA in both Muzarabani and Mwenezi, as evidenced by a number of employees and students on work related learning who are employed at the local industry. The internship offered by NBA is in tandem with the vision of the Ministry of producing students who are well versed with knowledge and know how to apply that knowledge.

5.5 The Committee observed that Verify Engineering has several projects which it is currently pursing. It was noted that all these projects were of national importance. However, there is need for the entity to focus on one project at a time so that the entity is not overwhelmed by the huge amounts of money required to start different projects.

5.6 The Committee identified a significant opportunity for Verify Engineering to produce and export oxygen, potentially generating foreign currency for Zimbabwe. However, they expressed concern that most of the oxygen is not used in local hospitals because of insufficient storage containers, leading to public hospitals not procuring oxygen from Verify Gases. This underscores a critical gap in market integration with national health institutions

5.7 The Committee noted that Verify Engineering had no official offices and that the infrastructure at Mkwasine Coalfields needs to upgraded if any investor is to take the company seriously.

5.8 The Committee noted that the welfare of staff at both the NBA and Verify Engineering is inadequate, leading to the loss of critical personnel to other countries in the region. Additionally, both entities lack proper service vehicles, which further impacts their effectiveness.

5.9 The Committee observed that only one out of all the projects stated by Verify Engineering was fully functional or operational, all the other projects are crippled with the issue of funding.

6.0 RECOMMENDATION

6.1 FOR VERIFY ENGINEERING

6.1.1 The government through the Ministry of Finance and Economic Development should prioritise funding for Verify Engineering projects, particularly those with immediate economic benefits, to facilitate the development of bankable projects. This should be looked into by the first quarter of 2025.

6.1.2 Verify Engineering should prioritise one project at a time to ensure effective resource allocation and successful implementation before moving on to additional initiatives.

6.1.3. Verify Engineering through the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development should invest in upgrading the infrastructure at Mkwasine Coalfields and other operational sites to attract potential investors. This should be done by 31 March 2025

6.1.4 The Ministry of Industry and Commerce on behalf of Verify Engineering should engage public-private partnership projects like Coal-to-Liquid Fuels and Iron and Steel production. This should be done in the 2nd quarter of 2025.

6.1.5 The Ministry of Health and Child Care should establish local market integration and develop strategies to ensure local hospitals and health institutions procure medical gases produced by Verify Engineering, addressing the current gap in market. This should take place by 25 May 2025.

6.1.6 The Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development should support Verify Engineering with funding to position it as a centre for innovation and research in science and technology, attracting collaborations with local and international research institution. Timeline for this is by 31 August 2025.

6.1.7 Verify Engineering should focus on renewable energy projects to align with global sustainability goals and reduce dependency on non-renewable resources this should be done by 31 August 2025.

6.1.8 Verify Engineering should continue to foster relationships with local communities to ensure project buy-in and support, particularly in resource extraction and industrialisation initiatives. This should be ongoing.

6.2 FOR NATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY AUTHORITY

6.2.1 The Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development, in collaboration with the Ministry of Finance Economic Development and Investment Promotion should invest in upgrading the Mapfura processing plant by April 2025to enhance its production capacity for high-value products like wine, oils and juices thereby meeting local and export demand.

6.2.2 National Biotechnology Authority should establish partnerships with local farmers for the sustainable sourcing of Mapfuura and Masau fruits, ensuring a reliable supply chain that benefits the local economy. This should be an ongoing engagement.

6.2.3 National Biotechnology Authority should enhance biosecurity protocols at the Beitbridge Border Post to protect local agriculture from potential pests and diseases while facilitating safe trade of biotechnology products.

6.2.4 National Biotechnology Authority should forge partnerships with local Universities and research institutions to conduct joint research projects on biotechnology applications, driving innovation and knowledge transfer. This should be done by 31 July 2025.

6.2.7 The Ministry of Industry and Commerce together with National Biotechnology Authority should create targeted strategies for exporting products from the Mapfura and Masau projects, identifying potential markets and ensuring compliance with international standards by 31 August 2025.

         7.0 CONCLUSION 

The inquiry into the operations of Verify Engineering and the National Biotechnology Authority has highlighted their significant potential in contributing to Zimbabwe’s industrialisation and economic growth. Both entities play crucial roles in advancing innovation, enhancing local capacities and promoting sustainable practices. However, challenges such as funding constrains, infrastructure deficits and the need for enhanced staff welfare have been identified as barriers to their successes.

To realise the vision of a competitive industrialised and modernised Zimbabwe by 2030, it is imperative that the government and relevant stakeholders provide the necessary support and resources. By implementing the recommendations outlined in this report, both Verify Engineering and the National Biotechnology Authority can significantly improve their operational efficiencies, foster innovation and ultimately contribute to the country’s development goals. The Committee remains committed to advocating for the interest of these entities and ensuring that their potential is fully realised in the national context. I thank you.

         THE HON. SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable Sibanda.  Right at the beginning of your presentation, you referred to Verify Engineering as a parastatal of the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education and in the middle of your presentation, you referred to it as a company.  Can you make sure you correct that?

Is Hon. Njanji here? Hon. Njanji! Where is he? Anyone who knows about his whereabouts?

HON. KAMBUZUMA: Good afternoon Mr. Speaker Sir.

THE HON. SPEAKER:  Good afternoon.

 HON. KAMBUZUMA:  Mr. Speaker Sir, he went for a Committee Workshop.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Which workshop?

HON. KAMBUZUMA:  I think it was a breakfast meeting. He said that he was going to a breakfast meeting.

THE HON. SPEAKER:  If it is a breakfast meeting, it is now over, he should be here. Who is close to him? Who is close to the Honourable Member to give him the message?

HON. CHINODAKUFA:  I am close to him Hon. Speaker, I will relay the message.

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE HON. SPEAKER

APPOINTMENT TO COMMITTEE

THE HON. SPEAKER:  I make this announcement therefore, please relay this to him. I have to inform the House that the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders has appointed Hon. M. Njanji to serve as the Chairperson of the Portfolio Committee on Local Government, Public Works and National Housing.

Before I call upon the seconder, I have this observation. There are 75 Members present here on my right and there are 48 Members present on my left, barring those who have been in and out.  This gives me a total of 123 Members. Our total number of the National Assembly is 280. It means we have got a shortfall of 163 Members. Now, the question is, where are these 163 Members? On average 25, that may translate to six Committees that are out somewhere.  Now, the Government Chief Whip is not there. The Deputy Chief, please take note and the Deputy Chief Whip from the other side.

Now, in terms of Standing Order Number 16, one of the functions of the Liaison and Coordinating Committee chaired by the Government Chief Whip, deputised by the Chief Whip from the Opposition says,

(a) to coordinate and liaise on scheduling of all Committee business. From now on, I will ask the Clerk to give me that schedule so that I know where these Members are. It is either they are in the House first and foremost and the scheduling must ensure that the Members are in attendance in the House and not out there.  So I need that register that will indicate to me who is where and doing what in terms of that schedule. I do so in the implementation of Standing Order Number 16. Your numbers here are very thin, very thin indeed. It is an obligation that you attend to the sitting of the House and Committees, perhaps from Friday, Saturday, Sunday up to Monday. On Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, you are in the House. Please take note and I want to see that schedule tomorrow in my office so that I know who is where and doing what.

         HON. MOLOKELA-TSIYE:  Excuse me Mr. Speaker Sir.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Who is speaking?

HON. MOLOKELA-TSIYE: It is Hon. Molokela Mr. Speaker Sir.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Yes.

HON. MOLOKELA-TSIYE: I am very excited when I hear you enforcing your responsibilities the way you have done now. It is something I really admire. However, I wanted also to encourage you, Mr Speaker, to be equally vigorous when it comes to the issues affecting the Members of this Assembly.  You know that they have not got their coupons for more than four weeks now and other allowances and so on. I want to encourage you to be equally vigorous in that. Thank you.

THE HON. SPEAKER. Is that the reason why they are not here and how are you managing to be here? Hon. Molokela, I pose the question to you.

HON. MOLOKELA-TSIYE: Hon. Speaker, it is among other reasons, but most likely because they are stranded they have no fuel coupons. Thank you.

HON. DR. KHUPE: I thought the Chief Minister was going to tell you that there is a workshop on diplomacy in Mutare and the bus is leaving at 3 o'clock. So, most of the MPs have gone to that workshop.

THE HON. SPEAKER: No, the bus leaves at 3 o'clock from here, so they should have attended partly.

HON. DR. KHUPE: I think they were packing their bags.

THE HON. SPEAKER: No, that arrangement also is not proper. Honourable Dr Kupe, you raise an issue you cannot be walking away from your seat. Yes, be where you were because I am addressing you. Thank you Hon. Dr Kupe. I take your point.  This is why I am saying we need that schedule so that we know, the schedule should not be disruptive of attendance here. Hon. Molokela, why should you suffer silently for four weeks, is it?

HON. MOLOKELA-TSIYE: There is no way you can say a person like me can be silent, unless those selected to represent me are silent, but me, I am very loud. Thank you.

THE HON. SPEAKER: I think you are not loud enough to engage the Whips. Now, I do not want to say I sympathise with you. It is wrong that you do not have your tools of trade. It is wrong. –[HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] -  I am happy that you brought this to my attention and I will act accordingly so that we close the gap. Nobody, nobody has brought this matter to my attention, even if I am outside the country, I am reachable. So, I apologise to you and your colleagues who are not here and l assure you that we will close the gap so that you are not disadvantaged. Thank you.

HON. MATSUNGA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. Like what Hon. Molokela already alluded to, I am leaving to Mutare but there is no fuel. With regards to all the monies for induction, we have not yet received anything from induction workshops, all parliamentary activities have not been paid and things are spilling out of hand. Thank you so much. I am leaving to Mutare for assignment but we really plead with you so that our issues are addressed.

THE HON. SPEAKER: You see, umntwana ongakhaliyo ufela embelekweni, mwana asingacheme anofira mumbereko.

HON. NYANDORO: Thank you Mr. Speaker for allowing me to add my voice on the issue on the table. We had a meeting as the Chief Whips together with the Finance Department and the Ministry of Finance, I think it was three weeks back. The Ministry of Finance had promised to give money to Parliament before we open so that Parliament can clear off the debts. Unfortunately, when Hon. Togarepi called them yesterday, the Finance Department said they have not received anything yet from the Ministry of Finance. However, the Government Chief Whip insisted that he knows that something was deposited into Parliament's account. It seems as if there is, I would not want to call it a game but there is a ball throwing between the Ministry of Finance and our Parliament Administration.

If you can come in and assist us we would greatly appreciate it.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Thank you. However, when you hit a brick wall, you reverse and come to my office as the Committee responsible for the welfare of Members of Parliament. I wish the Government Chief Whip was here. Why did you not come to appraise me if there was a problem?

HON. KAMBUZUMA: Maybe it is the procedure or the protocol but what I really know and understand is that the Clerk's Office is aware of all this. When the Chief Whip was making a follow-up through Mr. Zvamada and Mr. Takavarasha, the Clerk seems to be in control. Maybe I think it is the procedure. From the Clerk maybe it comes straight to you. So from now on, since you said when it is not going well, people should come straight to your office, I think we will work that way.  We appreciate it.

THE HON. SPEAKER: You tell the Clerk that you are receiving no positive response. You are proceeding to my office because you are Hon. Members. The Clerk is your employee. Your problem is that you want to bow to the Clerk. He is your employee. If he is not servicing you properly, come to your fellow Member of Parliament.

HON. KAMBUZUMA: Point noted. From now on we will take your advice.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Then if the Minister of Finance is not performing. I know where to go. Let me know because without coupons for four weeks, how do we expect Members to come to Parliament?

HON. KAMBUZUMA:  To be honest things are not going well?

THE HON. SPEAKER: Yes. So, let us deal with that. Now that I know, I am going to proceed accordingly.

HON. KAMBUZUMA: Thank you. We appreciate it.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Now, you did not promise me that you'd give me the schedule.

HON. KAMBUZUMA: We appreciate it.  Definitely by the end of the day, we will make sure the schedule is in your office.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Thank you. Is Hon. Makope here?

HON. MAKOPE: Yes.

THE HON. SPEAKER: Hon. Makope, we apologise for delaying your seconding the motion, but I think it was necessary that we put our House in order. Now, I am calling on you to second.

         HON. MAKOPE: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir, you did not delay me because we are putting the House to order. I really appreciate that because I am also affected . Let me take this opportunity to second the comprehensive report presented by Hon. M. Sibanda. The report was so exhaustive. It touches almost all aspects of the visit, from the methodology up to the recommendations.

Verify Engineering and National Biotechnology, these are two parastatals which are working under the Ministry for Higher and Tertiary Education, Innovation, Science and Technology Development. They are very important because they are driving three pillars of heritage-based education. Our pillars under the Ministry for Higher Education include the teaching pillar, community service, research, innovation as well as industrialisation.

The innovation and research aspect as well as industrialisation are the key drivers of our economy which are being pushed by our universities. These two parastatals are very important in implementing some of the issues under the research section, innovation and industrialisation. I will not dwell much on the issues of the challenges, but I just want to give my opinion on how these two entities can improve their efficiency as they are implementing the three pillars of heritage-based education.

Our universities send students for attachment to these two entities. These two entities as well take the prototypes of our researches from the universities and they develop those prototypes into by-products, products which also go into the market. So, our universities, polytechnics are leveraging on these two entities and they are very important. They have a lot of potential in these two entities. Unfortunately, there are some setbacks which hinder progress among these two entities. One of the main challenges faced by the two entities, particularly the Verify Engineering is the issue of funding, yet they have a lot of potential.

As we speak, they have a number of outstanding projects which need to be completed. They have the potential to produce fertilizer that can assist us in curbing the hunger and starvation in our country, but they do not have funding to support that crucial project. They are also into the industrial gas as well as the medical gases which are very important, oxygen and nitrogen. For Verify Engineering, they produce 99.9% pure oxygen which can be used in our hospitals and  industries.

The unfortunate part is that those gases are not being used by our local sectors, particularly the Government section and its departments. We could have seen the Minister of Health, through its procurement section, purchasing these gases from Verify Engineering. That  money which supports Verify Engineering, I believe it will go a long way in supporting this entity to complete its projects.

Purchasing these gases from Verify Engineering as a Government, is also an advantage for other entities, parastatals and other Non-Governmental Organisations that might also want to use the same gas. They will instill confidence that the products which we are producing through our entities is pure and also effective. So, my main recommendation on that is to see our Government supporting our parastatals through purchasing the products which they produce.

We believe that money will circulate within our Government as well as our parastatals. As for the MBA, when we are looking at their capacity, they are far much better as we compare to Verify Engineering because they have a number of products in the market. For example, the Marula products which are being produced in Mwenezi at Rutenga. We are seeing these products in our shelves although more effort is required again to penetrate into the market. Most of these products which we are producing, be it in our universities through our innovation hubs, they are failing to penetrate the market probably because of lack of confidence.

We should have a deliberate policy as Government to make sure that we accommodate those products which are being produced by our universities and our entities. That will boost their capital. I also want to believe that projects such as the Marula plant in masawu, if they are given a chance, particularly if they are given land and even planting those Marula plants, that will also capacitate these two entities, particularly the MBA. If such programmes are done, we will have sustainable development among the two entities. So, the two entities have a lot of potential, they just need Government support. There are a number of issues in the pending trade right now, which they want to complete and I believe we should get to a point where they should be given a chance to be weaned and stand on their own. That will reduce the bureaucracy which is existing right away because some issues need implementation, for example, in the plant in Mwenezi but they need the approval of the headquarters in Harare. Some of those issues might be taken by events and that will be very difficult for them to work. With these few words, I want to applaud our Government for establishing such entities which can assist our universities. I thank you.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. TSITSI ZHOU: Thank you Hon. Makope. I have noticed that most Honourable Members have developed an interest in debating the report presented by Hon. Sibanda but can I request that you do your discussions without disrupting an Honourable Member who will be on the floor. You are conversing so loudly that even I cannot hear what the Honourable Member is debating.

HON. CHIDUWA:  Thank you Madam Speaker. I rise to add my voice on the report of the Portfolio Committee on Higher Education as presented by Hon. Sibanda and seconded by Hon. Makope. The report is specifically looking at the great contributions that are being made by the National Biotechnology Authority of Zimbabwe, specifically concerning the value addition, that is happening in Rutenga, Mwenezi. Also, the contribution that is being made by Verify Engineering which is under the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education. Why are these two entities so important to Zimbabwe? Firstly, we are guided by Vision 2030 and what is provided for under the National Development Strategy 1 where value addition and beneficiation are very critical.

We also have our education trust, where we have already moved from an education system that was creating output that would look for jobs to an education system that engenders innovation and the ability of our learners to be creators of jobs.

Looking at Verify Engineering, I think most of us will still remember what we went through during the COVID era. The prophets of doom, when COVID started and was declared a national disaster in March of 2020, were saying Zimbabweans were going to be wiped out. The respite came from Verify Engineering under the heritage-based learning where we were able to produce our medical oxygen that reached a purity level of around 19.9%. This is because of the education system that we have adopted. Just recently, we were at the ZITF where the main theme of this year's ZITF was focusing on industrialisation and there was an endeavour which also focused on rural industrialisation. This is in line with the Government policy where it is saying we need not leave anyone and any place behind. If you look at the value addition that is happening in Mwenezi, it is perfectly in sync with the policy thrust of the Government, to say industrialisation can happen even in the rural areas.

When we industrialise, we look at local economic development strategies and for Mwenezi, already we are saying we have identified as a development node, a resource where development can actually take place around. We now have Heritage-Based Industrialisation which is focusing on. We have more than 17 products that we can get from. At the moment, I am sure what we are getting most is wine and I am sure if we can exploit the full potential of, we should be able to generate more jobs, generate foreign currency and export as a way of preparing ourselves to enter the regional market.

Biotechnology is also a source for innovation, technology innovation. If you look at the technology that is being used to generate medical oxygen, again this is in line with our vision as a country to have technology-based solutions.

We are also looking at research and development. There is a lot of research that is going on when it comes to the production of wine. We are also looking at the other by-products that are coming from the production and processing of. This again is very critical for the country as it engenders the spirit of research and development. The research and development is also very important for the country as it assists us in terms of our competitiveness as a country. Looking at the export side, I remember the presentation that was done by Verify Engineering when they said they were now exporting medical oxygen to countries like Zambia and Mozambique. This is very critical for us for balance of payment support. As we export, it will assist us in stabilising our currency and all these are very important.

We also look at issues related to business units. The rural people feel part of the development agenda of this country. If you go to Mwenezi, when it is time for the season, the rural women and the youths collect. These are put together and aggregation is done. We have got specific collection points and again, it assists them in improving their incomes. When we were doing some discussions, especially when it comes to community benefits, we looked at the marula that is needed to create enough feed load for the Rutenga plant.  I think it is now high time when the collection of marula should not just be confined to Rutenga. It should not just be confined to Mwenezi District. We are looking at neighbouring districts like Chiredzi, Chivi, Zaka, all these can also aggregate the marula that they have, which can also add into the feed load that can assist the marula plant to effectively be operational the whole year.

As I conclude, I would want to support the motion by Hon. Sibanda, which I have already said is adding to the agenda for the country. Industrialisation is the way to go. We cannot be a nation that is going to develop when we rely on raw inputs. We have got our marula, we are able to generate our own medical oxygen. This is very important as we drive the industrialisation agenda for this country. It is the industrialisation agenda which is going to grow our GDP. It is industrialisation that is going to generate employment, which is going to strengthen our currency. As we focus on production, surely, we should be able to achieve Agenda 2063 and also be able to achieve Vision 2030. I so submit.

HON. M. C. SIBANDA: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

HON. MAKOPE: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday, 13th May, 2025.

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

HON. KAMBUZUMA: I move that Orders of the Day, Numbers 10 to 24 be stood over until Order of the Day Number 25 has been disposed of.

HON. PRISCILLAR MOYO: I second.

MOTION

LEGISLATIVE REFORMS ON THE IMPORTATION, SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF SKIN-LIGHTENING PRODUCTS

Twenty-Fifth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the use of skin-lightening creams.

Question again proposed.

*HON. NYAMUPINGA-KARIMATSENGA: Mr. Speaker, the issue of skin lightening creams and other supplements that are being taken by both women and men because is not universal to women but men are also taking such supplements. The biggest challenge that we are facing as a people, especially as black people is that we are not satisfied with who we are. You would be shocked that sometimes we pretend that we are proud to be black people but regarding our skin complexion, you would find that we display the inferiority complex. It is as if we despise ourselves. We think for people to be noticed; they have to apply skin lightening lotions. I once asked a certain young lady why she was using those skin lightening creams.  She said it is because men now prefer light skinned women. Then I noticed that the biggest challenge that women face is caused by men. Men push women to indulge in what they do not want to do because some would say that for me to get married then I must be light. If it is someone who has that inferiority complex, then they would end up taking skin lightening supplements that are taken orally and some that are applied on the skin.

You would find that from head to toe, some would be light but you would see that their knuckles would be dark and you would begin to identify the different features, the different skin colours that are found on one person’s skin. I want to thank the Hon. Member who moved the motion because if the issue is discussed in this august House, this might help our young people who are using these supplements and lotions. In this august House Mr. Speaker, you would find that some men are using skin-lightening creams. You end up not differentiating between men and women. I wonder what they do when they are in bed in their houses. You would find that the husband will be light and the wife will be light. What is affecting our people?

Mr. Speaker, what I want to raise concerning skin lightening lotions is that they are dangerous for our skin and they are destroying our skin as black people. We go to funerals and we cannot use umbrellas in funerals. You would find people using clothes and other things to try and avoid direct sunlight because it affects their skin. We also have the issue of skin cancer which poses a threat to our people. Skin cancer is dangerous in that it affects the skin. Then the other issue is the fact that everything that is manufactured and refined is not perfect because it is not God-given. You would find that some have side effects. The skin will develop different colours, different patches with different shades of colour and this results in people not having a uniform skin texture.

There is also the issue of allergies. After applying creams, some react to these supplements and lotions. In the past, some were applying Ambi and it affected their skins. Some would just have allergies, rashes and when you try to deal with the rashes, the body reacts in a negative way. The other challenge is that every time I read the leaflets, you would find that all supplements are imported. They are imported, they are not manufactured in Zimbabwe.

We go back to the issue of drugs, contraband and you wonder how such contraband is imported into Zimbabwe. The question is, how are they imported because applying these supplements and lotions is a sign of desperation. I want to urge the Government to ban skin lightening lotions and creams because by doing so, we will be able to curb illegal smoking of such dangerous and poisonous substances which affect the body and which culminate in people suffering from different ailments.

There are some people that I know who have failed to conceive. Some have lost fertility as a result of taking oral medications and tablets. They affect our hormones and this is a challenge which affects even marriages where people fail to conceive and sustain their marriages. So we need to look into this issue Mr. Speaker, the issue of self-esteem. I do not know how people lose their self-esteem and end up indulging in supplements and drugs which are detrimental to our health. Some would change their complexion overnight, from being darker and beautiful to being light-skinned. This is affecting a lot of people and this encourages young people to use skin lightening lotions which results in deaths and illnesses.

The ingredients that we find on leaflets are so deceiving and the side effects are not indicated properly. Some use their concoctions without any measurement and dosage. They use what is called techni-quick. Some would use concoctions in preparation for different activities and occasions. This is a fast way of skin lightening but they do not take into consideration that the ingredients might be dangerous for the skin. Why do you not ask yourself what happens to the body when you lighten the outer skin? What happens to the inner person? Some women are married because of their beautiful complexion but when they go for honeymoon, you would find that some marriages break since they would have different complexions all over the body. There will be discolouration. This affects the marriage because of the passion for unrealistic beauty, as a result of pursuing what does not reflect who you are.

I want to thank the Hon. Member who moved this motion because this is a pertinent motion. This is a motion which speaks to what we also do in this august House. This is not a situation which is happening in different places only but even some Members of this august House also apply skin lightening creams. When we go to reach out people, we need to take into consideration that sometimes you might face rejection because they will say you do not want us to be beautiful yet you also use the same supplements.

Hon. Speaker, when I wear this wig, sometimes I have to consider that I have my natural hair. In other countries, they shape and have different haircuts like bibo and others. As a people and as a nation, we are facing this challenge of skin lightening. So no one takes the time to go to the dermatologist to consult about the application of such supplements and skin lotions because consulting a dermatologist might assist you in terms of identifying something which might work for you. We only think of bread and butter issues. We only think of how our families will benefit but we are not prioritising our health.

When we start prioritising our health, then people would not partake in such activities, especially women. These are issues that we need to continue talking about. How are you going to tell your children not to apply skin lightening creams when you are doing the same as a father or as a mother?

I believe that we need to support the motion that was moved by Hon. Makope regarding skin lightening creams that are damaging our skins. Sometimes you would find that school children discriminate against each other saying, look at her, she is just dark and this is encouraging people to apply skin lightening cream.

         HON. MASHONGANYIKA: I just want to correct the Hon. Member who is saying the motion was moved by Hon. Makope, it was Hon. Mutimbanyoka.

         *THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Thank you very much. Yes indeed, you are correct to say that the mover was Hon. Mutimbanyoka. Please continue Hon. Nyampinga and refer to the mover of the motion using the correct name.

         *HON. NYAMUPINGA: Thank you Hon. Speaker. This is caused by the fact that I was the seconder of the motion which was supposed to be moved by Hon. Makope. When it was moved, I assumed that it was moved by Hon. Makope because during that particular day, I was not in the House.

On a closing note, I want to emphasise the issue that we need to avoid skin lightening creams which damage our skin and we need to discourage our children from doing the same. We must desist from criticising them because it takes away their self-confidence. We also need to urge men to desist from the point of only saying that the light skinned women are the best because this is pushing other women into partaking in skin lightening schemes and when their skin is discoloured, when it is affected by skin cancers, you will find men leaving them, going to women who have good skins. This also affects the fertility of women. So, I want to urge the nation to avoid encouraging people from taking skin lightening creams and supplements. I thank you Hon. Speaker.

*THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Hon. Nyamupinga, are you saying that men are also using skin lightening creams? It is quite difficult, I thank you.

HON. CHAKAKURA: Thank you Mr. Speaker, good afternoon and congratulations on your new appointment. Mr. Speaker, skin lightening refers to the use of products or treatments to lighten skin tone or reduce pigmentation or to beautify oneself. It is popularly known as bleaching. There are methods that people often use to lighten their skin, which can be topical creams, chemical peels, laser treatments and using IV drips. This is a practice that has gained more popularity in certain regions but all these come with significant risks and considerations. Potential risk of IV can be infection. Any procedure involving needles carries a risk of infection at the injection site.

         There are allergic reactions; some individuals may experience allergic reactions to the substances used. There is kidney damage, high doses of certain substances like glutathione which can affect kidney function and regulated practices. Many clinics offering these treatments may not be licenced and may not follow proper medical guidelines, which may cause people to be sick in the long term.

The causes of this skin lightening can be due to peer pressure, it can be the desire for lighter skin which can be influenced by friends or relatives. The desire for lighter women by many men in society can pressurise women to enhance their skin tone so as to get attractive. There are cultural norms. In some societies, lighter skin is often associated with beauty, status and privilege. This cultural preference can lead individuals to seek skin lightening.

There is social perception. Media portrayal of beauty standards often favours lighter skinned women or lighter skinned men, leading to pressure to conform to these ideals to lighten their skins. There are self-esteem issues. Individuals may believe that lighter skin will enhance their attractiveness or social appearance, leading to low self-esteem and desire to alter their appearance so that they may look desirable to many people. There are psychological factors. Issues such as body dysmorphia can motivate individuals to change their appearance through skin bleaching.

Mr. Speaker, skin lightening can pose several health risks including skin damage. Many skin lightening products contain harsh chemicals that can cause irritation, redness and allergic reactions. The mercury exposure in some products, especially those not approved by health authorities, may contain mercury which can lead to serious health issues including kidney damage and neurological problems. Steroid use in some topical creams often found in skin lightening creams can cause skin thinning, acne and skin conditions when used long term. Increased sensitivity in lightened skin can become more if the skin is exposed to sunlight, increasing the risk of sunburn and skin cancer.

         There is uneven skin tone where one carries more than one colour on their skin and then there is dependency where some users may become dependent to those products for perceived beauty, leading to continued use despite adhesive effects and also if some discontinue the use, they might have dark patches on their skin.

Mr. Speaker, I believe if we educate women and men on these risks that skin lightening carry, we will be able to raise awareness so that they know the risk that these skin lightening products carry.   We should encourage celebration of all skin tones through media, advertising and community programmes that highlight beauty in diversity and also engage influencers and collaborate with these influencers and public figures to promote positive body image and the acceptance of natural skin tones. There must be enforcement of already regulated laws to these harmful skin products. There must be launches that empower self-acceptance, encouraging individuals to embrace and love their natural skin. There are also cultural initiatives where people should support cultural celebrations on local beauty standards and challenge colourism. I thank you Mr. Speaker.

         +HON. NKALA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir for this opportunity given to me to add my voice. First of all, I would like to express my condolences on this motion. As a country, we have a duty to ensure that our people get genuine things like lotions so that they do not endanger their skin. It is our duty again as a country to enforce the issue of people making sure that they love who they are. The modern world has made us black people think that we are less of people. So, it is our duty as a country to teach each other that the black pigment that we have is beautiful. If you were to take it back to the Bible, it teaches us that people are created by God and they represent God. Therefore, all of us in the various ways that we are in, we are representation of God.

Therefore, we need to teach each other that we need to have self-esteem. People do not trust themselves because they think by having white skin, it means they are more beautiful. Being beautiful is life in yourself and it is not about being light. You can be black and be more beautiful than those who are light-skinned. What is important is that as a people, we enforce laws that will support every one of us in accepting their black pigmentation. We also need to enforce our culture because in most cases, we are taking modernisation to be the best thing and being white to be more beautiful.

Our country is endowed with so many nice things and as a country, we need to have policies that will focus more on what people are using, especially in terms of creams. Once these laws are enforced, we also need to ensure that they are used accordingly.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. J. TSHUMA): Order! Can I have Hon. Nkala being heard in silence?  If you have to speak, please lower your voices.

+HON. NKALA: I was saying for laws to be enforced fully as a country, we need people who monitor them to ensure that they are working appropriately. We realise we have quite a number of things that are illegally getting into our country through porous borders. Most of these things are getting into our country illegally, just like the creams we are talking about. Most of them are coming in legally but because of corruption by those that need to be enforcing our laws, they are accepting money, at the same time, allowing such creams and many more other illegal issues into our country. Right now, these people are selling these skin lightening creams.

Further, most of them are selling them illegally and from illegal places. If you want them, you have to approach them from where they operate and ensure that you also hide the creams because they are illegal. We need to ensure that our laws are fully enforced and we have people who enforce them accordingly. We need to shun corruption as a country until it is over because it has made our country fail to progress well. If there was no corruption, we could not be talking of the rampant skin lightening creams the way they are in our country. Even if these people are to be incarcerated, the next day you will see them back in the streets from where they have always been operating.

What is vital is that before we pinpoint our leaders, we as a people need to focus on how we operate. As Members of this august House, we can put in place laws that enforce the criminalisation of those selling these creams but the challenge is more to do with those bringing in those creams into our country. Therefore, it is critical for us to look at where this challenge is coming from so that we can eradicate it. I encourage us to uplift our culture, which will make our girls and boys to know that being dark is not being ugly. It is also critical for people to make sure that they know the repercussions that are associated with what they are doing.

For those that are using skin lightening creams, they are damaging their skin and at the end, their skin is likely to face challenges, especially if surgical procedures are to be undertaken in case of accidents. Therefore, we need to make sure that as a country, we have a policy which will focus more on those that are bringing in these skin lightening creams and those that are buying these creams into our country to ensure that we fight this challenge until the end. The challenge is we are only looking at those that are applying these creams without fighting those that are bringing them into the country. As such, we are failing as a country. The reasons for coming up with these laws should be good enough to ensure that when we take them to our different communities, they are acceptable. In most cases, we realise that laws are enacted but they end up being defied by people who cannot fight for themselves but the wealthy people are the ones who will be benefiting from whatever the country would have come up with. It is critical that we craft laws which will fight the coming in of these creams into our country. Talking of these lotions, we realise that we continue to have drugs coming into our country and it is a challenge to our people.

In most cases, those that are arrested are those that will be found using these drugs but those who will be bringing in those drugs are not being followed up. Therefore, it is critical that we craft laws which will fight illegal coming in of these creams into our country.

Talking of these lotions, we realise that we continue to have drugs coming into our country and it is a challenge to our people. In most cases, those that are arrested are those that will be found using these drugs but those who will be bringing in those drugs are not followed up. Therefore, it is critical that when we are crafting our laws, we need to realise that we do not focus more on those that are using these things but focus more on those that are bringing them into our country.

I would like to thank Hon. Mutimbanyoka for bringing this motion because this issue has brought in challenges to quiet a number of people in our country. I also say it is good for us to have laws that will stop the coming in of these creams into our country because it is a challenge to us as Zimbabweans. People continue to have low self-esteem because of the way people have taken these skin lightening creams.

I would like to end by saying, let us enact our laws looking at both sides to ensure that we protect our country and ensure that what we are protecting as a country is indeed protected. Let us not fight those that are using these skin lightening creams and leave those that are bringing them into the country, the same with drugs.

Mr. Speaker, people are dying. Quite a number are dying because of these things that are allowed to come into the country illegally disturbing our humanity as Zimbabweans. I would like to thank you. The one who moved this motion in this House brought about a critical issue. I thank you.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. J. TSHUMA): Thank you Hon. Nkala even though you are saying your debate was not long enough, it was long.  Thank you.

         *HON. MURWIRA:  Good afternoon Hon. Speaker. Let me start by congratulating you for being appointed to that Chair.  I want to thank you Hon. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to debate the motion that was moved by Hon. Mutimbanyoka regarding skin lightening creams which are being applied by both men and women, which is quite sad.  After applying these lotions, you find the fingers being dark and having dark feet whilst the rest of the body is light. People end up wondering whether you are sick or what. I want to thank God for giving us beautiful skins.

You are beautiful as you are, whether you are dark or light in complexion. My grandmother, my paternal mother was dark in complexion. After bathing, you would love her skin. It was dark with a rich complexion. The application of skin lightening creams for women in rural areas results in women failing to go to the fields.

Hon. Dr. Khupe having approached an Hon. Member and started having a conversation.

         THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  Order Hon. Dr. Khupe, I think if you have issues there, you can take them out of the House so that you do not disturb the proceedings. You may continue Hon. Member.  

*HON. MURWIRA:  You find that they try to protect their skins and they cannot go to the fields.  When they go to the fields they are affected by sunburn and you would find some having boils on their cheeks.  I want to say that Hon. Speaker, if possible we could enact punitive laws which prohibit the importation of skin lightening creams.  Those that will be found with such creams should be prosecuted so that they are discouraged from bringing them to Zimbabwe.

Let me add by saying that after applying these creams, we find some people losing their memories. They cannot recall certain incidents and it affects their cognitive abilities. For those who are pregnant, there is a risk of giving birth to a disabled child.  Honourable Speaker Sir, I want to thank God for giving us beautiful skins. Why do men want to apply such creams, your skins are good.  Some men are applying lotions and after doing that they believe that they are more handsome than others. Mr. Speaker Sir, we need to ban these lotions because it affects us and it affects our lifestyles as people.

HON. SHIRIYEDENGA:  On a point of order. Thank you Mr. Speaker.  I would like to request the Member debating that she should provide us with evidence that skin bleaching creams cause psychological conditions and also results in children with disabilities. I thank you – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear.] –

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  Honourable Member, I think your point of order does not arise – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear.] -The discussion at hand is general knowledge that is known and  seen.

HON. SHIRIYEDENGA:  Mr. Speaker Sir, with your indulgence, you cannot generalise information.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER:  I have made a ruling. Please take your seat.  Honourable Member, you may continue.

HON. MURWIRA:  Thank you Hon. Speaker for protecting me. I also want to suggest that when they debate, they should also provide evidence from their research.  I believe that I am debating from a point of knowledge.  For those who are married Hon. Speaker, you would find that this affects relationships, even your husband might not be comfortable. My desire is that God should help us so that we enact laws which address this.  I want to thank Hon. Mutimbanyoka for moving this motion and I thank you Hon. Speaker.

         HON. MUNEMO: Thank you for affording me this chance to add my voice on this motion that was moved by Hon. Mutimbanyoka. Hon. Speaker Sir, a stitch in time serves nine. We need to take this debate seriously because it serves our citizens from this detriment of bleaching. We have a singer, musician and hero Mtukudzi who sang a song that was praising our citizenry. He said, be proud of your tribe, who you are, your identity and be proud of where you come from. It gives us a chance to support this motion from Hon. Mutimbanyoka. Bleaching has so many effects on our bodies. Many products that claim to lighten skin are not safe.

According to the International Journal of Dermatology, skin poses a serious public health threat because many contains mercury which is a toxic heavy metal. Skin lighteners are harsh on the skin and cause permanent damage. They can cause hyper pigmentation, those dark spots that are uneven on the skin. They cause sun sensitivity and premature aging and wrinkles. In some extreme cases, they cause cancer, cause permanent damage to the nerve and tissues in one’s eyes. Noting all these causes and damages to the body, it is prudent Mr. Speaker and pertinent to warn and educate our citizens not to bleach at all. We need to take this debate seriously because I have not met any statement when I was doing my reading that says, white is beautiful but so many times I read, the statement that says black is beautiful. I thank you.

         HON. M. C. SIBANDA: Thank you so much Hon. Speaker. May I start by thanking Hon. Mutimbanyoka for raising this important motion? Skin lightening creams by definition are products designed to reduce melanin content in the skin. My point of departure with the rest of the speakers who are supporting the motion starts by indicating that traditionally, our sisters used red fine clay soils to improve their public look. This was working well. The elderly women can confirm that even their marriages were influenced by these red fine soils that they used to put on their faces. Skin lightening cream can also help to reduce the appearance on the skin, those dark spots, the freckles and other forms of skin deformation. It has been proven medically that these skin creams can reduce even the skin tone and boost the confidence and self-esteem in women. The challenge now is, what do we need to do as a country? As far as I am concerned Hon. Speaker, I think as a country, we have to ensure that institutions that are manufacturing or importing skin lightening creams are properly strengthened.

         Lastly as a country, we may not be seen reversing some of the gains and achievements, particularly on the human rights. As far as humans are concerned, we need not infringe on personal rights and preferences. Let us allow women to have their preferences. Actually, if you had to ask men who are here, to say who would you prefer? I think proper answers will come. Thank you very much for allowing me this opportunity Hon. Speaker. I submit.

         **HON. F. NCUBE: Thank you Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity to add my voice on this debate. Firstly, I do not agree about these skin lightening creams. God created us differently, some are tall, short, ugly and beautiful. However, the most important things is, we are all human beings. Let us not try to modify ourselves such as by using these creams. If you look at these creams, they are very expensive so much that they just leave a very small circle on the face such that they look like monkies or baboons at the end of the day. Why are those creams like that? If you mix them with other lotions, you discover that the regular lotion that you apply is diluted and excretes a lot of water. It means that cream is not good, so it affects the skin and eventually kills us slowly. I am saying Mr. Speaker Sir, when these creams enter at the port of entry, let us see how they come into the country. How are they being sold? Are they not like illegal drugs, how are they imported? They are supposed to be regarded as such because they are destroying and not building anything. What are we saying as a country? Are we going to accept and kill ourselves? I do not think that is true. Actually, the skin of a person is affected or burnt when that person is walking.

I come from Hwange, some other time I attended a funeral. In Hwange, we use coal to cook and if a person uses that cream, they cannot stand coal fire. What happens? I do not accept that cream but if they want to come and perhaps improve the beauty of people, they must come in a proper way and not cause side effects like pains. If you use that cream, we whisper when you pass. They are trying to beautify themselves but it is not working. Mr. Speaker, I am saying I do not accept this. I do not have further words, I thank you.

*HON. ZEMURA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I want to add a few words to the motion that was moved by Hon. Mutimbanyoka which has been a topic under discussion for quite a few weeks now. I believe that people are saying their points of view. Every person has a right to do what they desire. In the past our elders especially women, used to use what was called isibhuda and I believe that Hon. Speaker you know how this isibhuda was used by women. Forgive me Hon. Speaker for mixing languages. The question is why were women using isibhuda?

I have never seen a copse which was taken to a pathologist and it was determined that it was because of applying skin lightening creams. If there is anyone who died from skin lightening creams, I am sorry to hear that. We find that those who take mutoriro and other illicit brews are dying. Please allow those who would have used these creams like what was said by the previous speaker the day before yesterday that it is their democratic right. Allow them to use what they want because if there were copses which are a result of that, then the Ministry of Health and Child Care would have indicated that we are having an influx copses in mortuaries as a result of skin lightening creams.

So, I want to say that I have seen a lot people who apply skin lightening creams, but I have never heard of a death which was a result of skin lightening creams. If it is not an issue of the importation of creams from other countries, for creams that are in Zimbabwe, let us not restrict them because there are some which are manufactured locally and which are skin lightening. It is not an offence and it is not illegal to apply skin lightening creams.

*HON. TSITSI ZHOU: Thank you Hon. Speaker. I want to say that the Hon. Member who is debating should know that Zimbabwe does not allow the application of harmful medication and lotions, but I want the Hon. Member to continue with the debate without misleading people.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. J. TSHUMA): Hon. Zemura, I think you need to understand that what you are speaking about, the illegal creams that are coming into the country that cause all these sufferings and probably skin cancer, as you debate, be guided accordingly. Thank you.

*HON. ZEMURA: We are talking about practical things that we see happening. Let me say that things that are happening which have laws which govern them, let us follow the law. If there are no legal statutes to support that, then let us enact proper laws so that the young people even adults are arrested when they violate such laws. The challenge in our country is that the skin lightening creams bring cancer, but let us look at cancer…

*HON. DHLIWAYO: I wanted to hear why the Hon. Member said that men should be arrested regarding this issue of lotions?

*THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Hon. Zemura was talking about the breaking of the law and she was saying that anyone who breaks the law should be arrested whether they are men or women. Please allow the Hon. Member to continue with her debate. As you continue Hon. Member, please remember that the law is there. The lotions that we are talking about are illegal in Zimbabwe and they are being smuggled into the country.

*HON. ZEMURA: I want to thank you because we noticed that these lotions are illegal…

*HON. MAKUMIRE: I heard you Hon. Speaker saying there is a law for that. May I know which law this is so that we observe it. Thank you.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Hon. Makumire, I am chairing this House, unless if you want to swap and you come over here. Please take your seat.

*HON. ZEMURA: Please allow me to finish my contribution. From my own point of view, I believe that we should observe the law. If it is an issue of smuggling, smugglers should be arrested. If there are people who are making such illicit brews and if they are manufacturing illicit skin lightening creams, they must be arrested. We should not debate whilst making life difficult for people by saying that it is the fault of women and yet men are doing that. You would find that now they apply lipstick. If we continue with that trend, then we would say that we must stop applying lipstick and stop putting eye lashes. We are wearing long dresses because you said mini-skirts are not right. We left them and you end up saying that we must leave long dresses.

Lastly, ladies will be moving around without putting on traditional clothes because people are just looking at one side. Sometimes we pursue fashionable trends, you would find that fashion will be discussed in Parliament and we will be told that our clothes are too short or they are too long. So, talking about what is happening the world over in different countries, but if we derail and if you believe that we are straying, you can correct us. Thank you.

HON. DR. KHUPE: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I know that I will not get an opportunity to speak because I think it is important that we understand and clarify some of the issues, which is exactly what Hon. Zemura was trying to say. Can you please stop judging women, condemning women and criticising women? Can you please stop that because what must be understood is that my body is my choice, whether I want to bleach or I do not want to bleach? If I decide to bleach, it is none of anyone's business but it is my business and no-one else's business.  Women must not be condemned, criticised or discriminated for bleaching. Hon. Speaker, allow me to finish, allow me to finish.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. J. TSHUMA): Just a moment. Hon. Dr. Khupe, please take your seat, everyone take your seats. Hon. Khupe, Hon. Zemura had an opportunity to debate this motion and she was putting her points of view which do not need anyone to clarify. If you have anything that you would want to add, I guess you need to put yourself in a position where you will be part of the debate and then you can air your views and we will all understand from that point of view. We do not need any sub-speaker or translator for a well-articulated debate. Thank you.

HON. DR. KHUPE: Hon. Speaker, on a point of order, I will not sit in this House and allow women to be condemned because of their choices. I will not do that. Women out there are going to be treated like that. You are saying black is beautiful.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order, order! Hon. Khupe. I have made a ruling and when I have made a ruling, I expect you as a seasoned Member of Parliament, to understand and respect that. Like I said, this debate is not closing today. You can always have your day to air whatever issues you have, which are very important by the way, but not in the way that you want to put it across today.

HON. KAMBUZUMA: I do move that the debate be adjourned.

HON. NYANDORO: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday, 13th May, 2025.

On the motion of HON. KAMBUZUMA, seconded by HON. NYANDORO, the House adjourned at Nineteen Minutes to Five o’clock p.m. until Tuesday, 13th May, 2025.

 

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